at 57:50 he just starts diving into jws out of no where.
gotta give the guy credit at least, he really got ahead of the game because this video is pretty old.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyvabqgtbds.
interesting subject that maybe one day i will look at more, for now it just seems to far out.
if the free masons were/are going to be the new world oder i would surmize that are well past their use by date.
Out here in country australia, one towns freemason lodge is nothing but a historical display in a museam, in my little town its few old men farmers who mostly are drunk a good portion of the time and dont even have a meeting place other than a comunity hall...
Oz
two of the older sisters in our hall both widows were looking on line for the jw.org site and were talking at the hall about how they have a jw singles.
meetup site on the jw.org web site.
they obviously were on the wrong site but didn't know the difference.
two of the older sisters in our hall both widows were looking on line for the jw.org site and were talking at the hall about how they have a jw singles.
meetup site on the jw.org web site.
they obviously were on the wrong site but didn't know the difference.
maybe they found a site called jw.orgasm?
Oz
walking down memory lane today and recalled a convo with my ex about noah's ark.
(i made all the rookie mistakes when talking to my ex about jw stuff -sigh.
) i think i said something like 'if you believe in noah's ark take the cat and a mouse from the backyard for a drive around the block and let me know how it goes.
Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, ...saying, ... for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation [modern uniformitarianism belief]. For this they willingly are ignorant of, that ...the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: - 2 Peter 3
I LOVE THIS VERSE!
It is so freaking STOOPID
First, make some realy daft predictions that involve past present and future events, then also add that when people scoff at the nonsense that such scoffing proves the first nonsense correct indeed!
Oz
hi guys,.
so then, why did you get dunked?
were you pressured into it too, or did you do it because you honestly thought it was the right thing to do?.
For the life of me, i don't really know.
i was about 18, i dont remember the date at all. I think it was just the culmination of all that i was ''supposed'' to do. I think it may have involved a little bit of a drawcard for girls...you know, ''oooh he's baptised''. I think though it had as much do do with just going with the flow, it's just what one did.
dumb arse me...was the pattern for the next 22 years
Oz
found this article on gawker.com.
check it out i'd like to get your thoughts:.
http://gawker.com/5986407/time-of-trouble-knocking-on-the-door-of-the-jehovahs-witnesses?post=57721553.
wonderfully well written i thought.
The JWs may well stay around another hundred years yet but they are going to be a lot smaller in number...and is it possible...even more corpse like...
Oz
i have just read the book, life ascending by nick lane, which discusses the possibility of luca originating in alkaline hydrothermal vents.
then this morning i heard about this story.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21520404.
I know nothing of what you speak, but it has always baffled me why mankind has spent so much time and money exploring out space and not our own back yard.
oz
yesterday, a jwn poster e-mailed me asking if i would post on this discussion board his recent email to steven unthank and also post stevens reply.
the reason for the request is because the poster has need to remain completely anonymous.
i agreed to share the email because i knew you would find stevens reply informative and interesting.. .
a recording would still be held up to reasonable doubt...
oh thats an apostate fakery, that sounds nothing like vincent, the sound quality...i dunno.
a letter?
oh thats a fake, those apostaes stop at nothing.
Anyway, at this time, i doubt that the federal government, the victorian government nor the Watchtower are taking Steven Untahnk to be a nut.
Oz
any gov agency or private company that has private personal info of customers/clients should be aware.
its common knowledge to long time witnesses that jws will violate customer privacy laws and rules when they see something a customer does or buys that they think jw congregation elders should know about .
thats right they will spy for the elders.. .
JWs are the reason i almost didnt get the best job i ever had!
Dont know if i have ever shared this but this thread on employing JWs probably is a good home for it...apologies if not.
I was unemployed, not long off the regular pioneer list seeing that we had just had a baby. Reality had set beck in and i had to leave what had been a pretty idealic time (working part time both of us) and head back into full time work. So there i was on a stinking hot day, delivering junk mail when i decided to call into the local jon service. Found a job i thought i could do and made the phone call....
Introduced my self to the boss who asked what my work history had been and i got to the 4 year pioneering part, "engaged as a full time minister doing evangelical work with jehovahs Witnesses" (what a crock of shit we told ourselves) his immeadiate, unhesitating reply?
"in that case i have no interest in employing you at all, goodbye"...
I managed to catch him before he hung up and asked why...I was pretty desperate for job. So he allowed me to explain a bit, he told me about a recent employee who "was a JW and was nothing but a pain in the arse". After some quick thinking and ad libbing about how we are not all like that he said "well you have mangaed to talk your way into an interview...but you are going to have to work hard to sell yourself"
And I did, and he was impresses enough to tell me as far as he was concerned the job was mine but his wife would be very opposed to it. next day i get a phone call to come for a second interview with the wife. he had told her (she worked in the firm as well) that the guy he wanted for the job was another JW and well, lets just say she was NOT enthusiastic, and i had to work harder to convince her that i would be ok to employ.
I got the job.
The JW was still working there when i started and boy was it obvious why he didnt fit in...he was always preaching. every time one of the 15 other workers had a birthday (so there were plenty of them) he would make a point of going into the typical JW speel about birthdays being pagan...(as if it mattered to these people) needless to say, they 'persecuted" him without mercy.
JWs as employees can do a great job in turning dozens of people OFF the witnesses. This guy turned off more than he could have ever hoped to convert in 2 lifetimes of missionary service.
And the best part?
The people that worked there became friends, the boss and his wife remain to this day (19 years later) the very best friends i have ever made. They saw me transition from full on JW to where i am today. The staff like to think they had a hand in 'corrupting me', and they did...
to them, a big thankyou!
Oz
it looks like you are in the first stages of waking up.. you have been shocked to the core by getting disfellowshipped, what for does not really matter here.
you came to voice your feelings then die, you have voiced the feelings and then hung in there.
i am sure many are very proud of you for that, i am.. now, your thoughts of survival are turned towards your loved one, will it work?, ''i'm a jw and he is not''.... fisrt up, you are now, not a jehovah's witness.
You are off to a flying start Chichi89...
I think you will do fine, and research will set you free.
thankyou for taking the time to consider what i wrote, i just felt the need to tell you that stuff...
Oz
